Kevin

It is true that I'll never have enough money to buy Alice, but I think the main point is that you've never had, nor ever will, have the right to sell her.

And this is why comparing the way women are treated in the US today and the way slaves were treated in the South prior to the Civil War is wrong.

Also, I did not say deductive reasoning = nihilistic utopians. I tried to spell out my definition of a nihilistic utopian:

They start with the premise that society is inherently corrupt, and that anything unfair about the status quo has to do with societal and historical injustices. Their conclusion on any issue, is that the status quo AND the possible change, are both indistinguishably, partially flawed, and therefore cannot take and stand by a specific position.

They are the person who will never shoot a movie at all because they can never find a perfect location.

They are the cinematographer who takes 6 hours (and would take 12, if they could) to light a single shot in a single room.

They are the UN, who after 12 years of Saddam evading sanctions, think that he should be given 6 more months to comply.

They are the folks in Iraq who refuse to vote because they don't want an "imposed" democracy.